Response to lgbt discussion
Tone: kind and caring.
God has been clear in Scripture on this topic and all topics of sin. Sin is deviation from God's perfection (his Holy character, nature, attributes). We see the design for man early in Genesis. All today's issues are addressed in Gen 1-11. Then further/clearly/pointed to in the rest of Scripture.
Today because of rejection of truth, of God's Word, counterfeit Christianity exists. Satan has no problem making people believe half truths and decieving them as if theyre saved. They never got saved and this twist Scripture, slander Christ, trample on his sacrifice and work. They create churches [cults] that follow their moralistic idolatry and pervert Christianity to the world. They devieve themselves and all the children that grow up in it.
We who are actually born again by God are to come alongside and reason with people who claim to be Christian but their lives are far from it. Scripture has loads of verses on this. And those who are His will lovingly correct and direct them to Christ for true salvation. But unless theyre open minded, unless theyre humble, unless theyre willing to embrace and obey truth, unless the Holy Spirit is leading them to the cross and salvation then theyll be blind to it and oppose it because without salvation theyre in their sin nature and can only live freely within the confines of what fruit sinners produce.
This is why believers must live in the fruit of the Spirit and love as God loves, with a very patient, kind, caring, forgiving, gracious, & merciful attitudes while being truthful. Loving others means speaking truth, but it matters how we are presenting it.
On this topic some redeemed ones in Christianity do know how to share and address the issue, and other redeemed ones just know its wrong from Scripture on a surface level so they do their best to speak and address it out of love even though they bumble a bit (and God bless em for boldly doing so). However the truth is those living in this (or any other) sin already know it is wickedness and rebellion towards God. The Law is written on their hearts and their conscience bears witness. They either follow the law morally or they sear their conscience and are given over to their retrobate mind. This is dangerous for them because God has a line drawn and if you cross it in this life or in death it is too late for you to be saved.
It isnt loving to leave people in sin especially those professing Christ (even falsely). It isnt loving to ignore their danger and just let them die in their sins and go into eternal punishment where God's wrath never abates. It is loving to try to rescue them and do our best to lead them to truth and the foot of the cross for mercy, forgiveness, God's grace and to be made right with God, so like us they will escape that damnation because Jesus redeemed us from it. He bought us back as the kinsman redeemer in Scripture illustrates, and as soon as that legal transaction happens, as soon as we are saved, God makes us radically new. He gives us the righteousness of Christ- thus we live in the righteous nature; the result is we hate sin and love righteousness. We kill, conquer and have victory over every sin in our life. We do not willfully rebelliously go running back to sinful ways. We do not embrace sin nor live in it.
Those claiming to be Christian yet living like the latter point show they never were saved and are just decieved and deceiving themselves.
Today hear God's voice and repent. "Repent and believe the Gospel" Jesus said and also "Go and sin no more". Turn from wickedness, and surrender to God. Put your sinful self to death in the cross of Christ and put Him on the throne of your life as your Lord and master. Submit lovingly to God and He will lead you in life [and spend eternity with you in a blessed place].
This is the Gospel we are called to obey.
This will bring clear clarity on the issue of the lgbt sex cult and what we all need to understand, both for the person in it and those in Christ who are leading people out of it. May God open your eyes more to these truths.
God bless. ✝️
Verses of note:
Romans 3:23: "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."
Jude 1:23
and for others, save, snatching them out of the fire; and on others have mercy with fear, hating even the clothing polluted by the flesh
Let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. James 5:20
2 Thessalonians 3:1 "... brothers and sisters, pray for us that the word of the Lord may spread rapidly and be honoured..."
Proverbs 13:15: "All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes, But the LORD weighs the hearts."
Genesis 6:5: "The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."
Jeremiah 17:9: "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” Matthew 6:24
The word mammon comes from the Greek word mammonas. In biblical culture the word mammon often carried a negative connotation. It was used to describe all [self centered focused] lusts and excesses: gluttony, greed, and dishonest worldly gain. Ultimately, mammon described an idol many trusted as a foundation for their world and philosophy.
For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18
How beautiful are the feet of those who brings good news, the good news of peace and salvation of God. Isaiah 52:7
And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. Mark 16:15
"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth." 2 Tim 2:15
"But in your hearts honor Christ as Lord, the Supreme One. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to reason for the hope that is in you; but do so with gentleness and respect." 1 Peter 3:15
Colossians 4:6: "Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer everyone."
Proverbs 15:1: "A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger."
“I now rejoice, not that you were made sorrowful, but that you were made sorrowful to repentance. For you were made to have godly sorrow, so that you might not suffer loss in anything through us. For godly sorrow produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world brings about death.” (2 Corinthians 7:9–10)
“Nevertheless, when we are judged in this way by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be finally condemned with the world.” 1 Corinthians 11:32
But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men. 2 Timothy 3:1-9
May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you the same attitude of mind toward each other Christ Jesus had.” -Romans 15:5
2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
2 Peter 1:20-21 knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by human will, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, of joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intents of the heart."
Romans 2:14-15: "For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts accusing or even defending them on that day when God judges the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel."
Hebrews 9:27: "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment,"
2 Corinthians 6:2: "For he says, 'In an acceptable time I have listened to you, and in a day of salvation I have helped you.' Behold, now is the acceptable time; behold, now is the day of salvation."
Romans 1:18-32
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what can be known about God is evident among them, for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling things. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural function for what is contrary to nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They are filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, insolent, proud, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, unforgiving, unmerciful, who know the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, and yet they not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.
To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure, but even their mind and conscience are defiled. They profess to know God, but in deeds they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work. Titus 1:15-16
This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their mind, having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to the hardening of their heart. Ephesians 4:17-19
Romans 1:28:
King James Version (KJV): "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"
New International Version (NIV): "Since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done."
New Living Translation (NLT): "They refused to know God, so God abandoned them to their sinful desires. Soon their minds were filled with evil thoughts and wicked actions."
Legacy Standard Bible (LSB)
And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to an unfit mind, to do those things which are not proper.
2 Timothy 2:15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.
2 Timothy 4:2: Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and teaching.
1 Thessalonians 5:11: Therefore encourage one another and build up one another, just as you are doing
Proverbs 12:1: "Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid."
Proverbs 15:5: "A fool spurns a parent's discipline, but whoever heeds correction shows prudence."
James 4:6: "But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.”" (Humility is linked to receiving God's grace, which includes correction.)
Psalm 141:5: "Let the righteous strike me; it is a kindness; let him rebuke me; it is oil on the head; let my head not refuse it."
Galatians 6:1: "Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. Look to yourself, lest you too be tempted."
See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him. [2] Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is. [3] And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure. [4] Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. [5] You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. [6] No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. [7] Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; [8] the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. [9] No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [10] By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother. 1 John 3:1-10
As obedient children, do not be conformed to the former lusts which were yours in your ignorance, [15] but like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves also in all your behavior; [16] because it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.” 1 Peter 1:14-16
Understanding God's Holiness and who He is
What the unsaved need to know about Sin
Resources for growing Believers
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